JOAN: Here are a few Scriptures that Contradict the Catholic Church


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BFHU:  You have merely been taught that these scriptures contradict the Catholic Church’s teaching. But we completely accept the Bible as the inerrant word of God. In fact, the Catholic Church compiled and canonized it. It is a Catholic Book.

Our doctrine preceded the canon of the Bible however. So the NT was derived from the teachings of the apostles. Catholic doctrine came first and was not derived from the Scriptures the way Protestants derive their beliefs only from Scripture.

The Bible was not officially canonized for 400 years after Jesus. The pilgrims landed here 400 years ago. That is a long time. And yet, the Catholic Church spread the Christian Faith far and wide without the New Testament. And even the OT was too expensive for everyman to own one. Besides most people could not read. 20% of the world population still cannot read. So, the Doctrine of Sola Scriptura never would have been invented until after the invention of the Printing Press. And still, what is a person who can’t read supposed to do? God to Hell? Or go to a Catholic Church where Scripture is read to the faithful. Conversation: Sola Scriptura vs Illiteracy Rates

The Catholic Faith and teachings do not contradict Scripture anywhere. I was a Sola Scriptura Protestant until 15 years ago –>Why I became Catholic

However, Catholic Doctrine does contradict Protestant interpretations of Scripture in several places. But that is not the same thing as contradicting scripture itself. These interpretations are Protestant Traditions not Apostolic Traditions. But let’s go through your Scriptures. ( to see Joan’s complete comment in context–>Joan Barton March 17, 2014)

Joan: Jesus said, “I am the Way, the Truth & the Life. No man comes to the Father but by me. John 14:6 For there is one God & one mediator between God & men, the man Jesus Christ I Tim 2:5

BFHU: Since Jesus is both God and man He is the One mediator between God and men.–>One Mediator

Joan: And when Jesus came to Peter’s home, He saw his (Peter’s) mother-in-law

BFHU: Celibacy ( I am guessing that is why the passage on Peter’s mother-in-law) is not a dogma of the Catholic Church. It is a discipline. In fact we have married priests in the Catholic Church precisely because it is a discipline that can be changed and exceptions made. There is historical evidence that the Apostles were celibate from the beginning and that Peter’s wife had probably died leaving him only with a mother-in-law. But even if his wife was mentioned in Scripture proving she was still alive it would not change things. Celibacy allows a man and a woman to have an undivided heart for serving Christ in line with St. Paul in

I Cor 7:38 he who refrains from marriage will do better

–>History of Clerical Celibacy

imagesJoan: The Catholic Doctrine of the Perpetual Virginity of Mary.

But she remained a virgin until her Son was born; & Joseph named Him Jesus. Matt 1:25 

…and knew her not until she had brought her 1st born son: & he called His name Jesus. Matt 1:25 K.J. Version In the old testament the term ” and he knew her” meant that he had sexual intercourse.

and He (Jesus) taught them in their synagogue & they were astonished. They said, Whence has this man’s wisdom, & the mighty works? Is not this the carpenter’s son? Isn’t his mother called Mary? His brothers James, Jo-ses,& Simon & Judas; and his sisters, are they not all with us?” Matt 13:54-56

I have recently learned that some are trying to twist the scriptures to say that Joseph was married before he married Mary, or that his brothers & sisters were actually cousins.
The Bible doesn’t even hint at such; it clearly calls them brothers & sisters.
Some thoughts about that: I it was so important that Mary be so pure & immaculate of a virgin, why was she not worthy to have an immaculate husband instead of a well used one? Could they not find an immaculate husband for such a pure one?
It is unbelievable that during all the years between Jesus birth & death that absolutely not even a hint of her getting a husband that came with a built in family. When they went to pay their taxes would not some of those children go with them, or at least mention where they were & why none did.

BFHU:  We do not “twist the Scriptures” to say Joseph was married before or that the ‘brothers and sisters” were cousins. These are historical/cultural/entymological evidence against the literal interpretation of brothers and sisters to mean siblings and only siblings. Please see–>

A Tradition of Men: Jesus had Siblings. Mary is NOT a Perpetual Virgin.

What we find in the Gospels is what was deemed pertinent to Salvation. It is historical but not exhaustive because Sola Scriptura had not been invented yet and Jesus left a teaching Church. He did not leave the NT or even exhort the necessity of writing the NT. We know from St. John that much of what Jesus did was left unwritten for Oral Tradition to teach verbally.

John 20:30 Now Jesus did many other signs in the presence of the disciples, which are not written in this book; 31 but these are written that you may believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God, and that believing you may have life in his name.

John 21:25 But there are also many other things which Jesus did; were every one of them to be written, I suppose that the world itself could not contain the books that would be written.

Therefore, we do not have all the detailed information in the NT regarding Mary and Joseph’s marital arrangement. Joseph was assigned as a protector of Mary and was not immaculate. Mary’s freedom from all sin was a special grace of God and a fitting place for God the Son to dwell for 9 mos.
Full of Grace

Peter & the KeysJoan: Jesus built His Church on the rock of Peter’s faith.

BFHU: This is a common Protestant interpretation of Mt 16 in order to dispute that Jesus built His Church on Peter. The attempt is to assert that the Church is built not on Peter and the Apostles but on Peter’s confession. Note that you have not quoted a scripture to prove this assertion because there is none. It is merely a Protestant tradition. Please see—>

Petros/Petra vs. Rocky/Rockelle

 

Joan: The next is baptism. Every baptism in the Bible was by immersion in water. It says that it symbolized being, along with your sins crucified with Christ. Coming up from the water symbolizes resurrecting, & being born again with Jesus. Every one baptized in the Bible chose to be & was receiving Jesus as their savior. And they received at least one gift of the Holy Spirit which was their guide from then on.

BFHU: The Bible nowhere commands that Baptism be by full immersion. And how do you  prove that all the baptisms in the Bible were by immersion?

Jesus LA cathedral–>How Was Baptism Administered in First Century?

I have given you many things to read because a one sentence question cannot be answered with one sentence. I hope you are genuinely seeking to at least understand the Catholic Church even if you never agree with the Catholic Church. I appreciate your interest.

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3 Responses

  1. God is in Heaven and Jesus interceds. I want Him to speak to the father on my behalf, not Mary or anyone, my prays go direcly to Jesus. Why should I pray to anyone else or in any other name but Jesus Christ?

    • Do you ask your friends to pray for you? Do you have friends that ask for prayer requests? We ask the Saints (including Mary) to pray for us because they are with God, and He hears their prayers for us in a similar way to how your friend on earth may pray for you and be heard by God.

  2. Hi Joan. This matter is quite simple. There are NOOOOO scripture verses that contradict the Catholic Church. The Catholic Church gave gave you the Bible. Why would the Church include a verse that would contradict itself? It is your pamphlet’s INTERPRETATION that is incorrect. God bless you.

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