Gender of God



Christ Lover: i read your answers to previous blogs and i think i must point out that ur knowledge on GOD is based on blind faith instead of reality!!

you are disgracing an all powerful master like jesus by blaming him for things that he will never dreams to do!! i want you to explain what you say!! i am quoting u and telling u the facts!! use scriptures to answer my questions!! i want direct quotes rather than your feelings!! (HERE “YOU” ARE THOES PEOPLE WHOME I DISAGREE WITH) here goes:

BFHU: I pray that it is merely your opinion that I have disgraced my precious LORD and Savior Jesus Christ. I await the evidence that I have blamed Him for something He has not done.

Christ Lover:i want you to explain what you say!! i am quoting u and telling u the facts!! use scriptures to answer my questions!!

BFHU: I will be glad to quote scripture whenever I can since you seem to be a sola Scriptura Protestant and that would be the most helpful to you. However, I just want to let you know that Sacred Scripture does not command or even teach that all TRUTH about our Faith is to be found in Scripture alone. That, my dear friend is merely a Protestant tradition started a short 500 years ago by Martin Luther.

Christ Lover: i want direct quotes rather than your feelings!! (HERE “YOU” ARE THOES PEOPLE WHOME I DISAGREE WITH) here goes:

BFHU: Certainly. I was not aware that I wrote about my feelings. I really am not inclined to relying of feelings. So please point specific examples of this out to me so I can clarify.

Christ Lover: On may 27th u had said ( Why Can’t Women be Catholic Priests?: )

“There is a lot more evidence that HE has chosen to be identified with the male gender.

BFHU: Oops! the above quote is not in Why Can’t Women be Catholic Priests?: even though that is where your comment is posted. I will see if I can find it on May 27th….hmmmm….no….There is nothing about this topic posted on May 27 on my blog or on this post Why Can’t Women be Catholic Priests? II either. Let me keep searching…..OK I found the post. It was from Sept 10 There Should be Priestesess

Christ Lover: We can only know the mind of God through His Spirit.”

BFHU: Of course this is correct. But how does one know concretely that one actually HAS the SPIRIT of God when thinking and coming to conclusions as opposed to just his own individual ideas that turn can and do turn out to be CONTRARY to the SPIRIT of GOD?

This became very clear to me as a Protestant b/c all 40,000 Protestant denominations are absolutely convinced that their denomination has the Spirit and mind of Christ better than any of the other 39,000 denominations. These are good and sincere people but they can’t all have the totally accurate , infallible Spirit of God because they are not unified and God is not a God of confusion.

Christ Lover: do YOU know the spirit or god’s plans?? IF NOT HOW CAN YOU SO SURELY SAY THAT HE HAS CHOSEN TO IDENTIFY WITH MALE GENDER???

BFHU: Because God has chosen to be identified as a

FATHER not mother, (Matthew 6:9, Mark 14:36; Romans 8:15; Galatians 4:6

  1. John 6:27
  2. 1 Corinthians 8:6
  3. 1 Corinthians 15:24
  4. Galatians 1:1
  5. Ephesians 5:20
  6. Ephesians 6:23
  7. Philippians 2:11
  8. Colossians 1:3
  9. Colossians 3:17
  10. 1 Thessalonians 1:1
  11. 2 Thessalonians 1:2
  12. 1 Timothy 1:2
  13. 2 Timothy 1:2
  14. Titus 1:4
  15. 1 Peter 1:2
  16. 2 Peter 1:17
  17. 2 John 1:3
  18. Jude 1:1

BRIDEGROOM not bride, ( (Song of Solomon 4:7-16)(Ezekiel 16:8-14) Mt. 9:15) many others–> HERE

KING not Queen,

King Eternal (1 Tim. 1:17)
King of Israel (John 1:49)
King of the Jews (Mt. 27:11)
King of kings (1 Tim 6:15; Rev. 19:16)
King of the Ages (Rev. 15:3)

Great High Priest (Heb. 4:14) not high priestess

Last Adam (1 Cor. 15:45) not last Eve.

Lion of the Tribe of Judah (Rev. 5:5) not a lioness of the Tribe of Judah

Man from Heaven (1 Cor. 15:48) not woman of Heaven

Only Begotten Son of God (John 1:18; 1 John 4:9) not Only Begotten Daughter of God

Son not Daughter

Son of David (Lk. 18:39)
Son of God (John 1:49; Heb. 4:14)
Son of Man (Mt. 8:20)
Son of the Most High God (Lk. 1:32)

Our Husband (2 Cor. 11:2 )not Our Wife

You can see many other titles for Christ HERE it would be interesting to find out if the nouns/pronouns are male or female in gender. I would guess they are either neutral or male. But I really don’t know.

LET ME BE VERY CLEAR

GOD IS SPIRIT. HE HAS NO ACTUAL GENDER. HE IS GENDERLESS. MY POINT IS THAT HE HAS CHOSEN TO BE IDENTIFIES WITH MALENESS IN MANY, MANY MORE INSTANCES THAN FEMALENESS. THEREFORE, THE PRIESTHOOD OF THE CATHOLIC CHURCH IS MALE.

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2 Responses

  1. DEAR bhfu…,
    BHFU -“pray that it is merely your opinion that I have disgraced my precious LORD and Savior Jesus Christ. I await the evidence that I have blamed Him for something He has not done.”

    i completely agree with u that you have not blamed him or disgraced him personally in anyway .i meant to say that it is a disgrace when people interpretS his scriptures wrongly!! so please dont worry yourself over this…that is why i wrote
    (HERE “YOU” ARE THOES PEOPLE WHOME I DISAGREE WITH). people who interpret the scriptures solely and think nothing else can fit besides their thought!!

    u wrote:

    I just want to let you know that Sacred Scripture does not command or even teach that all TRUTH about our Faith is to be found in Scripture alone.

    you are pointing to the basic flaw in the system!! ie. scriptures are left to man to interpret!! each and every person can interpret them differently…but eternal truth is beyond interpretation.IT NEVER CHANGES!!. MAN CAN APPLY ALL REASON AND LOGIC AND YET THE EVIL POWERS CAN MAKE mankind MISS THE POINT!! the ways of satan are cunning!! THEN THE OBVIOUS QUESTION IS “HOW CAN EVER MANKIND BE SURE WHAT TO BELEIVE IN AND WHAT TO NOT beleive in “??

    THE ANSWER IS SIMPLE AND YET COMPLEX..I WILL COME TO THAT.BUT BLIND FAITH IS BOUND TO BE WRONG!! HAS HISTORY NOT CONFIRMED THIS??

    BHFU-I was not aware that I wrote about my feelings. I really am not inclined to relying of feelings. So please point specific examples of this out to me so I can clarify.

    i was talking about your opinions ie. what you feel is the truth!! i was not refering to ur emotions. i was refering to ur opinion or IN MY WORDS—what u “feel” about a topic!! I CALLED UR OPINION AS FEELING!! hope u understand….!!

    BFHU: Of course this is correct. But how does one know concretely that one actually HAS the SPIRIT of God when thinking and coming to conclusions as opposed to just his own individual ideas that turn can and do turn out to be CONTRARY to the SPIRIT of GOD?

    THIS IS THE MOST IMPORTANT POINT!! and i am very happy that i could make you think about this!! this point is the point on which if we are not cautious we can fall victim to the evil powers which blocks mankinds understanding of god. and if utilised rightly can lead to high spiritual developement!!

    FIRSTLY WE MUST GET THIS CLEAR:

    GOD CAN NEVER BE COMPREHENDED PURELY BY LOGIC AND RESON!! MANS LIMITED MIND IS INCAPABLE OF REASONING OUT HIS EXSISTENCE!! ONLY THE UNLIMITED PART OF OURSELVES IE. THE SOUL(THE ONLY PART WHICH IS DEVINE AND DIRECTLY CONNECTED WITH GOD,AND THE ONLY PART THAT IS REALLY WORTHY IN THE EYES OF ALL THE PROPHETS EVER!!). GOD MUST BE REALIZED,FELT !! WE CANT SHAPE GOD AS PER OUR WISH AND DREAMS AND FANCIES!! IF WE SAY HE IS A BEAREDED MAN IN HEAVEN…HE DOES NOT GROW A BEARD JUST BECAUSE WE SAY SO!! BUT THE ETERNAL TRUTH IS UNCHANGABLE AND THIS IS WHERE THE SAINTS COME IN!! THEY ARE THE ONLY ONES WHO HAVE DEVELOPED ENOUGH SPIRITUALLY TO FEEL GOD AND KNOW THE TRUTH FROM GDD HIMSELF!! ONLY THAT IS TRUE AND NOTHING ELSE!! ST FRANSIS WAS ONE SUCH SOUL!! HE LET HIS BODY SUFFER SO MUCH ..YET HE NEVER CARED ABOUT IT AS HE KNEW THAT ON DEATH THE ONLY REALITY WOULD BE CHRIST WITH WHOME HE USEDTO COMMUNE EVERY NIGHT ,EVERY SINGLE HOUR OF HIS LIFE!!
    THAT IS REALIZATION…WHEN ONE COMES TO KNOW THAT HIS ONENESS WITH GOD IS THERE!! TO HIM/HER AND ONLY HIM/HER GOD REVEALS ALL AND THAT IS THE TRUE “TRUTH” !!

    BUT HOW THEN U KNOW THAT U HAVE THE SPIRIT??
    WITH THE SPIRIT COMES GREAT POWER…POWER WHICH MANKIND CAN ONLY DREAM OF…TRUTH AND CONVICTION COMES TO SPEECH!! WHEN U SIT NEAR A REALIZED PERSON AND HEAR HIM TALK OF GOD U FEEL HIM/HER RADIATING THAT POWER!! OUTWARDLY THERE MAYBE VARIOUS MANIFESTAIONS OF THIS STATE OF AWARENESS…THE SCRIPTURES MENTION THESE VERY CLEARLY!! U WILL FIND THEM IN ACTS 2-“THE COMING OF THE HOLY SPIRIT”.THEY COULD SPEAK DIFFERENT TOUNGES ETC ,,,,,,BUT THE MANY IMPORTANT ONES WILL BE FOUND IN CORINTHIANS 12 UNDER “GIFTS FROM THE HOLY SPIRIT”
    LIKE WISE IN ALL THE BIBLE THERE ARE MANY EXAMPLES OF POWERS AND EXPRESSIONS THAT PROVES THAT YOU HAVE THE SPIRIT . THE MAIN THIS IS THAT U WILL FEEL GODS POWER WITHIN YOU…YOU DONT NEED TO BE A MIRACLE WORKER TO PROVE..YOU WILL FEEL PEACE AND LOVE OVERFLOWING IN YOUR SELF!! EACH PERSON GETS A PERSONAL EXPERIENCE OF GOD!! TILL THAT STATE IS REACHED NO AMOUNT OF REASON OR LOGIC AND HELP YOU INTERPRET GOD CORRECTLY…AND WHEN YOU HAVE THE SPIRIT YOU WILL FEEL IT..LIKE THE DISCIPLES YOU WILL BE ABLE TO FEEL HIM AND KNOW A LOT THINGS WHICH ARE UNSAID IN THE BIBLE AS IT IS WRITTEN THAT THE WHOLE WORLD CANNOT HOLD THE BOOKS IF ALL THINGS WERE TO BE WRITTEN ABOUT JESUS..SO U WILL FELL GOD AND PEACE AND LOVE AND POWER!! OUTWARDLY IF U CANNOT DO MIRACLES ..IN YOUR INNER SELF YOU WILL HAVE A SURE EXPRESSION OF THE SPIRIT!!

    when the spirit of god comes its primary work is to reveal god to the person who received the spirit!! with god comes immense powers which can be used to do miracles and heal and do good!! but knowing god is the final stage!! the level of consiousness cannnot realize god so fast and suddenly!! so the spirit works its way slowly !!

    BHFU-This became very clear to me as a Protestant b/c all 40,000 Protestant denominations are absolutely convinced that their denomination has the Spirit and mind of Christ better than any of the other 39,000 denominations. These are good and sincere people but they can’t all have the totally accurate , infallible Spirit of God because they are not unified and God is not a God of confusion.

    MORE THAN THE DIVISIONS IT IS THE INDIVUDUAL PERSONS AND SOULS THAT MATTERS!! IT MATTERS NOT IF ONE CHURCH CALLS ITSELF RIGHT AND OTHERS WORNG!! DIVISIONS ARE CREATED BY MAN AND SATAN!! THE TRUTH NEVER CHANGES AND GOD IS ONLY ONE!! SO INDIVUDUAL WORSHIP IS MORE IMPORTANT THAN GOING TO THE CHURCHES ON SUNDAYS AND SLEEPING LIKE MANY DO OR SING HYMS WHEN THE MIND IS ROAMING ON EVERYTHING BUT GOD!! GOD NEEDS NOTHING FROM YOU BUT ONLY YOUR LOVE!! THAT IS ALL HE DEMANDS AS HE IS THE OWNER OF EVERYTHING BUT YOUR LOVE WHICH ONLY YOU CAN GIVE IF YOU WANT TO!! THAT IS THE LOVE OF GOD FOR US!! IT MATTERS NOT WHAT A DENOMINATION SAYS!! SOME HAS TO BE RIGHT SOME HAS TO BE WRONG !! THE WRONG ONES DO NOT CHANGE GOD OR TRUTH!! SO IT IS INDIVUDUAL WORSHIP THAT IS SOOOOO IMPORTANT!! A DEDICATED 5 MINUTES ALONE AT NIGHT WITH ONLY YOU AND GOD..NO ONE ELSE….THAT IS WHAT MATTERS TO HIM..U ONLY THINK OF HIM…LOVE HIM AND SPEAK TO HIM!! INSTEAD OF A FULL FEW HOURS OF SUNDAY WHERE MANY PEOPLE SING MECHANICALLY WITH THEIR MIND ON EVERYTHING BUT GOD OR MAYBE LIKE SOME UNFORTUNATE PEOPLE WHO JUST SIT WHILE DAY DREAMING!! I AM NOT SAYING THAT GOING TO CHURCH ON SUNDAYS IS A WASTE!! IT IS A WASTE ONLY WHEN YOU DONT PAY ATTENTION TO GOD DURING THE SERVICE ..WHEN U SING BUT YOUR MIND IS AT YOUR WORK PLACE….GOD KNOWS YOUR THOUGHTS AND HE WONT INTERFERE AT YOUR OFFICE THOUGHTS(I AM SAYING THIS IN GENERAL AND NEVER TO YOU BHFU!! SO PLS DONT TAKE IT AS ME TALKING ABOUT YOU!! I FELT BAD THAT YOU THOUGHT I WAS TALKING OF YOUR FAULTS!! EVEN I HAV NO RIGHT TO JUDGE YOU!! AND WHY SHOULD I WHEN GOD IS THE ONLY PERSON ALWAYS RIGHT!! SO ALL THESE YOU POINTS TOWARDS DAILY PEOPLE HERE!!)

    BHFU- Because God has chosen to be identified as a

    FATHER not mother, (Matthew 6:9, Mark 14:36; Romans 8:15; Galatians 4:6

    IF JESUS LOVES GOD AND DECIDES TO CALL HIM FATHER IT DOES NOT MAKE GOD A MAN!!

    IT MERELY SHOWS THAT JESUS WAS WANTING PEOPLE TO LOOK UPON GOD AS A LOVING AND KIND PARENT TO US “CHILDREN OF GOD”.

    HE WAS POINTING OUT THAT OUR RELATION WITH GOD WAS MUCH LIKE OUR RELATIONSHIP WITH OUR PARENTS WHEN WE ARE BORN!! …BEFORE JESUS CAME -GOD WAS FEARED WAY TOO MUCH!! (AND PEOPLE WERE BLINDLY FOLLOWING LAWS INSTEAD OF LOGIC AND KIDNESS)

    GOD IS LOVE AND HE IS KINDNESS….JESUS WANTED TO SHOW THAT PART OF THE RELATIONSHIP !!
    THUS BEING A MALE HE CALLED HIMSELF SON OF GOD(ITS STUPID TO CALL ONE SELF DAUGHTER OF GOD BEING A MAN)!! ….SO GOD IDENTIFIED AS A PARENT TO ALL !! WHY DID NOT JESUS CALL HIM MOTHER??
    AS THE FATHER CONCEPT OF GOD APPEALED TO HIM MOST!! BUT HE NEVER DENIED GODS MOTHERLY ASPECTS OF KINDNESS AND LOVE EVEN WHEN THE CHILD DOES WRONG!! AND WHY WAS JESUS BORN A MAN??(I EXPLAINED THAT IN MY PREVIOUS POST!!)

    AND AS U HAD POINTED OUT :

    SON OF…SON OF …SON OF….WELL JESUS WAS A DECENDANT ALONG THE MALE LINE RIGHT?

    IN THOES DAYS THERE WERE FEW FEMALE RULERS AS WAS THE CUSTOM IN THOES DAYS!! BEING A LEADER IN THOES DAYS WERE NOT SITTING IN AN OFFICE AND ORDER A NUKE TO BE FIRED TO DESTROY!! THE LEADER OR KING WENT WITH HIS MEN TO THE BATTLE FIELD !! IT WAS RAW FIGHTING!! KILLING AND BLOOD AND MAINLY PHYSICAL BATTLES!! THERE WERE MANY IN THE OLD TESTAMENT!! SO HOW CAN EVER GOD BRING A FEMALE TO FIGHT BLOODY WARS AGAINST MOSTLY MALE SOLDIERS WHEN HE HAS GIVEN MEN THE POWER TO ACT LIKE BEASTS(PHYSICAL POWER)?? THINK DEEP AND THE LOGIC WILL COME OUT !! GOD IS LOVING AND JUST!! SO HE SPARED WOMEN TO BE SLAUGHTERD AT BATTLE FIELDS!! WHO WOULD TAKE CARE OF THE LITTLE CHILD WHO NEEDS MOTHERS MILK TO SURVIVE?? MILK POWDER IN SUPER MARKETS IS TODAY’S AGE NOT OF OLD TESTAMENT TIME!!
    SO GOD MADE A KING ALONG THE MALE LINE TO KEEP HIS PEOPLE SAFE!! JESUS WAS BORN AS A MALE AS IN HIS TIMES WOMEN WERE LOOKED UPON AS FAMILY MAKERS AND REASONS I HAD POSTED BEFORE!! SO IT IS NOT GOD IDENTIFYIN WITH MALENESS..IT IS GOD USING THE MALE BODY TO FULFILL HIS WISHES AND PLANS !! LOVE ..THAT IS GOD!!

    BHUF-Only Begotten Son of God (John 1:18; 1 John 4:9) not Only Begotten Daughter of God

    Son not Daughter

    WELL JESUS WAS A MAN SO HE CALLED HIMSELF SON!! THE SOUL OF JESUS WAS NEITHER MALE NOR FEMALE!! AND SO HE CALLED HIMSELF ONLY BEGOTTEN SON OF GOD!! IF HE CALLED HIMSELF DAUGHTER BEING INCARNATED IN A MALE BODY HE WOULD HAVE BEEN SCOFFED AT !!

    IN ALL MAN HAS CALLED GOD AS KING …FATHER…ETC!! MAN WITH HIS LIMITED MIND HAS CALLED HIM A “MAN”..GOD SAID I AM YOUR KING AS IN THOES DAYS IF HE SAID I AM YOUR QUEEN THE PEOPLE WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO TAKE IT RIGHTLY!! AS KING SYMBOLISED POWER AND STRENGTH(AGAIN MAN GAVE THE WORD KING SIGNIFICANCE!! TO GOD THERE WAS NO KING TO BE FEARED OF!!) SO GOD TO MAKE PEOPLE UNDERSTAD HIS POWER AND CONTROL USED THE WORD “I AM YOUR KING”..HE IDENTIFIED HIS SELF WITH MALENESS WHEN HE WAS ANGRY TO MAKE PEOPLE UNDRSTAND HIM USING HUMAN LANGUAGE !! HE IDENTFIED HIMSELF WITH FEMALE SIDE WHEN HE FORGAVE(WHICH IS WHAT HE DID MORE TIMES THAN ANGER)

    BHFU-GOD IS SPIRIT. HE HAS NO ACTUAL GENDER. HE IS GENDERLESS. MY POINT IS THAT HE HAS CHOSEN TO BE IDENTIFIES WITH MALENESS IN MANY, MANY MORE INSTANCES THAN FEMALENESS. THEREFORE, THE PRIESTHOOD OF THE CATHOLIC CHURCH IS MALE.

    SO YOU ARE SAYING THAT GOD CHOOSE MALENESS OUT OF WILL!! IF MAN WAS GODLY ENOUGH TO UNDERSTAND THAT BODILY POWER IS NOTHING COMPARED TO SOUL POWER WHICH SAINTS HAVE ,THEN MAN WOULD HAVE TREATED WOMEN AS EQUALS!!(HAVE YOU NOT TREATED THE WOMEN SAINTS HIGHER THAN A COMMON MALE??) THE PROBLEM LIES THAT MANKIND IDENTIFIED BODY STRENGTH AS POWER COMPARED TO GODLY POWER FROM SOUL AND SPIRIT WHERE A WORD OR THOUGHT IS ENOUGH TO MAKE THINGS HAPPEN!! AS JESUS SAID THE MOUNTAIN WOULD DROWN ITSELF IF THERE WAS FAITH!! GOD USED MALES AS TILL BEFORE A LITTLE WHILE MANKIND WAS SAVAGE WHERE PHYSICAL STRENGTH WAS LOOKED UPON AS A SIGN OF GODLINESS OR POWER OR LEADERSHIP!! BUT SAINTS LAUGH AT BODILY POWER AS THE SOUL AND SPIRIT IS WHERE POWER LIES AND WOMEN HAS THE SAME CAPACITY TO HAVE THE SPIRIT AND THEY TOO ARE SOULS !! SO I SAY ONLY PEOPLE WITH SPIRIT AND SOUL QUALITIES CAN HAVE THE POWER TO BRING PEOPLE TO GOD(THE WORK OF PRIESTS)!! NOW THAT MANKIND HAS SLOWLY BECOME MORE GODLY THE TIME FOR WOMEN TO BECOME PRIESTS HAS COME AS THIS IS A NATURAL ABILITY(TO TALK OF GOD) OF A SOUL NOT BODY!! FOR SO LONG GOD WAS FORCED TO USE MALES TO PREACH AS THERE WAS NO CAR TO TRAVEL….POLICE TO PROTECT!! A WOMAN PRIEST WOULD BE ASSAULTED BY LOWLY MEN WHO HAD NO CONTROL!! WOULD GOD THE LOVER OF ALL SOULS ALLOW THAT TO EVER HAPPEN TO HIS DAUGHTER TO WHOM HE HAD GIVEN A TENDER BODY TO COMFORT THE CHILD!! !! THE GODLY PLAN WAS TO MAKE A SOCIETY CIVILIZED BEFORE SOUL POWER CAN RULE!! NOW THE TIME IS UP!! SO WOMEN WILL COME INTO THE PRIESTHOOD LINE!! THIS IS WHAT GOD IS DOING…DONT RESIST EQUALITY AS IT MUST COME…..REMEMBER THAT IN EGYPT WHEN THE JEWS WERE NOT EQUALLY TREATED DID THEY NOT CRY OUT AND GOD ACTED!! ITS THE SAME HAPPENING!! LOVE THE CHANGE AS GOD WILL HELP YOU THEN!!

    LET GOD OPEN YOUR MIND FOR THE SPIRIT AND LOVE !!

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