Gender of God #3


Christ Lover: AND GOD NEVER TOLD CHRIST TO CALL HIM FATHER.

BFHU: How on Earth can you seriously assert that you KNOW everything God ever told Jesus?!

Christ Lover: A LITTLE BACK U WROTE:

. First of all, in the sacrificial system of Israel the Sin Offering and the Passover Lamb were always perfect MALES. Other offerings could be either male or female but not the Passover Lamb or the Sin Offering. Therefore, since, the sacrifice of Jesus Christ fulfills all the sacrifices, but most especially the Sin offering and the Passover lamb HE was incarnated as a MAN. And, of course, God chose this pattern of male sacrificial animals in the OT in foreknowledge of the sacrifice of His Son.

FIRSTLY PLEASE QUOTE THE SCRIPTURES WORD BY WORD WHERE IT IS MENTIONED THAT :

“God chose this pattern of male sacrificial animals in the OT in foreknowledge of the sacrifice of His Son.”

BFHU: There is none. But let’s just take a look at the Passover Lamb which prefigured Christ. Since the New Testament often refers to Christ as our Paschal (Passover) Lamb.

  • Perfect
  • Male
  • Slain
  • Eaten
  • Blood spread on doorposts with branch of Hyssop
  • No bones broken
  • For the salvaton from death

Jesus Christ

  • Perfect-Sinless
  • Male
  • Slain on the Cross
  • Eaten in Communion
  • Wine transubstantiated to His blood
  • Sour wine offered to Christ on the cross on a branch of Hyssop
  • No bones broken
  • All for Salvation of Man from Eternal death/Hell

IF JESUS WAS IN A FEMALE BODY WOULD THE SACRIFICE BE LESS WORTHY BECAUSE THE SOUL OF JESUS WAS IN A FEMALE BODY THAN A MANS??

BFHU: No. God could have done it all differently. We simply submit in humility to His plan and the way He chose, by His sovreign will, to do all that He did.

WHERE DOES THE POWER AND QUALITIES OF A PERSON LIE?? THE SOUL OR THE BODY( WHICH DIES AND DECAYS IN THE GRAVE)?? I DO NOT SEE ANY DIFFERENCE IN THE MALE BODY WHICH MAKES IT MORE WORTHY OF SACRIFICE?? IF U SACRIFICE A WICKED SOUL BUT IN A MALE BODY WOULD GOD ACCEPT SUCH A SACRIFICE?? THE REASON WHY A MALE LAMB WAS SACRIFICED IS THAT A FEMALE LAMB MIGHT HAVE HAD LTTLE LAMBS TO CARE FOR.

BFHU: That is very interesting but where in Sacred Scripture does it say that this is the reason

JESUS was the LAMB OF GOD slain at Passover. Therefore, HE is the fullfillment of the Passover Feast. And just like the Passover Lamb had to be perfect and male and be killed, and eaten and its blood was lifegiving–so Jesus is all of these.

HE COMAPRED WITH THE PASSOVER SACRIFICE AS THE RESULT OF THE SACRIFICE WAS THE SAME BUT IN A MILLION TIMES GREATER WAY(FORGIVNESS OF SINS) !! HOW CAN U COMPARE WHAT APPLIES TO AN LOWLY ANIMAL TO THAT OF WHAT APPLIES TO JESUS..THE EVER LOVING BEAUTIFUL MASTER OF ALL TIMES AND SON OF GOD!!

BFHU: I am not making up that comparison. I am simply in all humility following the teaching of the apostles.

  1. John 1:29
    The next day, John saw Jesus coming to him, and he saith: Behold the Lamb of God, behold him who taketh away the sin of the world.
  2. John 1:36
    And beholding Jesus walking, he saith: Behold the Lamb of God.
  3. Acts 8:32
    And the place of the scripture which he was reading was this: He was led as a sheep to the slaughter; and like a lamb without voice before his shearer, so openeth he not his mouth.
  4. 1 Peter 1:19
    But with the precious blood of Christ, as of a lamb unspotted and undefiled
  5. And in Revelation there are 17 more verses see them Here

U SAID :

This is merely your opinion supported by the zietgiest of our culture and nothing more. The God of the Universe, Creator of Heaven and Earth was not subject to the prejudices of people of any age. HE is all about TRUTH. And if it suited HIM to use primarily female typology and imagery He was able to do so in the service of Truth. The Passover Lamb of the OT was specifically to be male b/c God knew He would fulfill this by HIS SON in the NT era.

YOU YOURSELF SAID THAT “Men still do have a great tendency NOT to follow women, so it looks like God knew what He was doing by identifying with the male gender spiritually and as an incarnate MAN.”

WOULD GOD BE FOOLISH ENOUGH TO SEND JESUS IN A FEMALE FORM AND TRY AND PREACH WHEN HUMANITY AT HIS TIME WAS STOOPED IN DARKNESS -A RESULT OF WHICH WAS SUBJUGATION OF WOMEN?? MAN WAS IN HIS TRUE ELEMENTS..BODILY POWER RULED..GOD WAS FORGOTTEN…SO WOMEN SUFFERED AS THEY COULD NOT PHYSICALLY FIGHT BACK!!

BFHU: That is the customary feminist theory but it is a mere chariacture of society. But leaving that aside you ideas leave out the power of God to do ANYTHING He choses to do. Are you saying that the power of God was limited by human prejudice? That God was impotent to overcome prejudice by His Grace working in the heart ?

GOD WANTED TO FIRST BRING MANKIND TOWARDS HIMSELF AND TRYING TO DO SO WITH A FEMALE BODY(OF JESUS) WOULD HAVE BEEN DIFFICULT AS THE MIND SET WAS LIKE THAT(THE MISSION OF JESUS WAS TO UPLIFT MANKIND AND NOT FIGHT FOR FEMALE RIGHTS AS HE KNEW THAT AS MANKING WOULD GO TOWARDS GOD EVENTUALLY IT WILL MAKE WOMEN EQUAL AS GOD HAD PLANNED.)..SO AFTER UPLIFTING MANKING THROUGH CHRIST ,GOD HAS NOW SET HIS SIGHTS ON MAKING HIS OTHER PART OF CREATION WHICH IS BY FAR MORE BEAUTIFUL IN NATURE (THE OTHERHALF BEING NO LESS BEAUTIFUL IN GODS EYES) .!! HE WILL MAKE WOMEN PRIESTS AND WILL BREAK THE VERY MALE IMPOSED BARRIER!! ..

BFHU: Where is this written? All of this could have been a part of His plan but He chose to do it differently. Humility and submission to our Lord is far more valuable than demanding our perceived rights.

Matthew 16:26
For what doth it profit a man, if he gain the whole world, and suffer the loss of his own soul?

Women are far more beautiful than Men in God’s eyes? That my friend is Heresy.

GOD HAS JUSTICE IN HIS MIND….WHEN A GIRL FEELS SAD BECAUSE OF INEQUALITY IT IS NOT GOD BUT MAN WHO HAS MADE HER SO WITH HIS IMPOSED RULES…

BFHU:….or people filling her head with imagined slights and assertions of inequality. The feminist movement (NOW) had noble ideals at first but they got off track.

NOW- women are mere sex objects for men…in bed, in porn, in movies, in ads, even in marriage.

NOW women murder their children before they are even born.

NOW women have to work to make ends meet

NOW women live in poverty b/c of increased out of wedlock children

NOW women are divorced easily when men tire of them

NOW more women have grown up in fatherless homes etc.

SO THE FIRE OF GOD HAS SPARKED UP AND NOW THE CRIES OF A MILLION WOMEN WHO WANTS TO BE RECOGNISED AS GODS CREATION IN EQUAL TERMS HAS MADE HIM WAKE UP!

Matthew 16:26
For what doth it profit a man, if he gain the whole world, and suffer the loss of his own soul?

LOOKAROUND YOU,,,WOMEN HAVE STARTED TO REGAIN HER STATUS AS EQUALS IN GODS CREATION!! HIS PLANS ARE WORKING AND CAN SOME LOWLY MEN STOP THE UNLIMITED POWER OF GO JUST BECAUSE THEY HAVE INTERPRETED THE SCRIPTURES IN THEIR OWN WAY???

BFHU: And are you not interpreting scriptures in your own way? This is why we need the Church that Jesus founded and promised to be with until the end of time and that the Gates of Hell would not overcome Her. I trust my soul to Christ in the teachings of the  Catholic Church; 2000 years old and still young and beautiful. I do not trust anyone else or any teaching that simply  mirrors the present culture. That is so boring. I trust the COUNTERCULTURAL Catholic Church to be THE repository of the Ever Ancient and Ever New Christian Faith. Sorry. No offense.

PLEASE MENTION ONCE WHERE IN THE SCRIPTURES HAS JESUS GIVEN A DIRECT ORDER BARRING WOMEN FROM PRIEST HOOD??

BFHU: This is explicit in His practice. “He who has eyes, let him see and ears, let him hear.

BUT I AM SURE TO SEE U PRODUCE SUCH AN ORDER FROM THE MALE PRIESTS!! BUT HAS GOD SPOKEN OR MAN SPOKEN??

BFHU: Both. God rules His Church through Peter in the office of the Bishop of Rome. God gave Peter and the apostles the authority to rule His Church. The phrase “to bind and loose” was a Hebrew idiom meaning the authority to rule.

  1. Matthew 16:19 Peter the first Pope
    “I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven; and whatever you bind on earth shall have been bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth shall have been loosed in heaven.”
  2. Matthew 18:18 The Apostles
    “Truly I say to you, whatever you bind on earth shall have been bound in heaven; and whatever you loose on earth shall have been loosed in heaven.

LASTLY: U SAID

Its just that everyone has their place, man has his place, woman has her place, children have their place. The sooner society accepts that , the less complicated things will be.

WHO HAS GIVEN THE PLACES?? MAN HAS GIVEN TO WOMEN. NOT GOD!!

BFHU: What scripture do you base this on?

GOD MADE ALL EQUAL…man MADE HIS CREATION BAD BY HIS IDEAS!!! SOULS haVE no sex!! SO WHY LET THE OUTER BODY DECIDE WHO GETS WHAT WHEN TRUE QUALITY IS WITHIN…”THE KINGDOM OF GOD IS WITHIN YOU”….

BFHU: I beg you to step out of our decadent paganized culture and breathe deeply of the fragrance of the Kingdom of God. Our culture is so shallow, so self-serving, so full of pride, so angry and discontent. But the Kingdom of God is Joy, Peace, Goodness, contentment. Come and follow Jesus.

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