The Immaculate Conception is Just a Theory


Jesse,
Well, if you say that it is true that for 1500 years all Christians believed in Mary’s immaculate conception, even Martin Luther! Then isn’t it also true that ” for almost 2000 years, all Christians/nonbelievers, believed that the EARTH not the sun, was the center of the solar system/universe???” And well, we ALL know how that theory turned out… which brings me to this conclusion:

Immaculate Conception = a THEORY
Jesus = The Way, The Truth and The Life.

Unless you point to a single line in scripture that specifically says “Mary was without sin” then all you have is a theory, plain and simple, not truth, just a THEORY.

BFHU: I reject your assertion that unless something is found specifically in scripture it is nothing more than a THEORY.

And for this reason:
There is not a single scripture that defines the Holy Trinity.

There is not a single scripture that lists the books that should be in the Bible.

There is not a single scripture that says the Bible and only the Bible contains all religious Truth–The doctrine of Sola Scriptura.

There is not a single scripture that says salvation is by Faith alone.

You have fallen for the Protestant habit of hypocrisy; which is to apply a standard to the Catholic Church (in order to prove she is not the One Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church founded by Jesus Christ Himself) but never apply this same standard to Protestant beliefs.

Both Catholics and Protestants have doctrines and beliefs that CAN NOT BE FOUND EXPLICITLY IN SCRIPTURE. Therefore, one must decide who to trust: The Catholic Church which defined the doctrine of the Trinity and canonized the New Testament, founded by Jesus on Peter and the Blessed Apostles 2000 years ago or one the the thousands of Protestant denominations founded by various men , a mere 40 (Chuck Smith-Calvary Chapels) to 500 years ago Martin Luther.

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5 Responses

  1. Proper biblical exegesis does not require explicit statements. There are many necessary inferences that teach truth without explicit statements. For instance when the Bible says that there is one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus, we can say with confidence that Mary is not a mediator between God and men. If I were to tell you that the ball is red, you can say with absolute confidence that it is not a cube. You may also say with a great deal of confidence that it is not blue.

    When the Bible says, “This is a faithful saying: if a man desires the office of a bishop, he desires a good work. A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, temperate, sober-minded, of good behavior, hospitable, able to teach; 3 not given to wine, not violent, not greedy for money, but gentle, not quarrelsome, not covetous; 4 one who rules his own house well, having his children in submission with all reverence 5 (for if a man does not know how to rule his own house, how will he take care of the church of God?); 6 not a novice, lest being puffed up with pride he fall into the same condemnation as the devil. 7 Moreover he must have a good testimony among those who are outside, lest he fall into reproach and the snare of the devil (1Tim 3:1-7).” it is clear that a woman may not be a bishop since she cannot be the husband of one wife. It is also clear that an unmarried man may not be a bishop.

    Additionally, when the Scriptures tell us that ALL HAVE SINNED and fall short of the glory of God (Romans 3:23), we may say with absolute certainty that Mary was a sinner IN NEED OF A SAVIOR. Notice Mary’s own words, “My soul doth magnify the Lord, and my spirit rejoices in God MY SAVIOR (Luke 1: 46-47).” For this reason God sent His only begotten Son into the world to die for the sins of the world.

    Moreover, the doctrine of the Immaculate Conception is contrary to the Scriptures and to logic. If it were necessary for Jesus to be born of a sinless virgin in order for Him to be sinless, then Jesus was not perfect in and of Himself, but Mary perfected Him. This idea is blasphemy! Furthermore, if it is necessary for The Son of God to be born of a sinless virgin in order for Him to be sinless, how much more is it necessary for a mere mortal woman to be born of a sinless virgin in order for her to be sinless! Mary could not be sinless unless she were born of a sinless virgin, who could not be sinless without being born of a sinless virgin, who could not be sinless without being born of a sinless virgin, etc., etc., all the way back to the beginning. Of course we know that Eve was not sinless, therefore, there could not be a continuous line of sinless virgins giving birth to sinless virgins all the way back to the beginning. This is a ludicrous doctrine.

    Moreover, the Bible does indeed give us an explicit statement that tells us that the Scriptures give us all we need to be pleasing to God and it gives us explicit statements that teach that God is pleased when we test all things by what the Scriptures say.

    Much more could be said.

  2. I agree that not everything needs to have an explicit statement in the bible for it to be true, there are many implied statements that foreshadow christian beliefs.

    Since I have accepted that Jesus is the son of God, I also find it comforting to accept that Mary was sinless, not to perfect Jesus, but she was perfected by God for the birth of his son Jesus., I see nothing wrong with saying that Mary was a perfect human, to give birth to a divine human, but if there is, I don’t see how it takes away from the divinity of Jesus. Since Mary also needed a SAVIOR to become sinless.

    • Hi Rico,

      I appreciate what you are saying. I have desired to believe many things throughout my life that I felt was comforting, and exciting, and beautiful. However, thanks be to God, I have come to desire to believe the Truth above any fantastic fantasy or beautiful “belief”. We must not allow our feelings to dictate what we will believe.

      I have heard it said that feelings are notoriously unreliable, and I couldn’t agree more. I have seen feelings proven wrong often and I have experienced that with my own personal feelings. God’s Word does not teach us to go by what we feel. Often He teaches to go against what we feel and to act instead on truth, goodness, and true love, which things are much deeper than feelings, and to do so no matter how much we may FEEL like acting contrariwise.

      Moreover, God’s Word plainly says that all human beings have sinned and fall short of God’s glory. It is not possible to believe that Mary committed no sin and to believe God’s Word at the same time, no matter how comforting it may be to us. We may demonstrate that the Bible is the Word of God by many evidences. What reason do we have to believe your feelings or mine?

      Food for thought.

  3. Also, remember that Mary was a Jew who believed and would have followed the 10 commandments. The apparations of Mary tell us to Pray the rosary and that she is the “lady of the nations.” What obedient Orthodox Jew would even think of praying to an idol in light OT the first two commandments, along with the phrase that tells us that Jehovah is a “jealous God.” Read Jeremiah chapter 7 and 44 and see what God says about praying to the Queen of Heaven

    • Dear Mary,
      We do not pray TO Mary in the same sense that we pray TO God. God is able to answer our prayers. Mary and the Saints are able to intercede for us just like any other human person that we ask to pray for us TO GOD.

      1) Mary is not an idol. She is a human alive in Heaven.

      2) She actually is the Queen Mother of Heaven because Jesus is King.

      3) The Queen of Heaven mentioned in Jeremiah could not possibly have been referring to Mary, since she had not even been born yet, and neither had her parents or their parents.

      4) The Queen of Heaven referred to in Jeremiah was a mythical pagan goddess. Mary was not Pagan. She was not mythical. She is not a goddess.

      5) “All generations shall call me blessed.” Mary declared under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit. Which Church still calls Mary the Blessed Mother? Does your Church? How will you answer when you stand before Jesus and He asks you why you did not?

      6) Catholics honor Mary. We do not worship her. We honor her in obedience to the Commandments to honor our Father and Mother. Since we are a part of the body of Christ, Mary is also our mother. And we are told in Revelation 12

      17 Then the dragon was enraged at the woman and went off to wage war against the rest of her offspring —those who keep God’s commands and hold fast their testimony about Jesus.

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