Scripture Support For Sola Scriptura

MK:It is a lie from the pit of Hell that we can take man’s word (oral tradition) over the word of God.

BFHU: I agree with you that we cannot take man’s word over the word of God. And I can assure you as a former, zealous, sola scriptura Protestant that the Catholic Church does not do this.You mistakenly confuse an INTERPRETATION OF SCRIPTURE that you, or your pastor, or some other explanation of a passage is the same thing as Scripture but it is not. That is why Protestantism, unhinged from the historic roots of Christianity has given birth to thousands of different denominations. Each denomination, split off due to a disagreement of how certain scriptures should be INTERPRETED. They all had the same scriptures and the same desire to follow Christ. But they came up with a lot of differences and confusion.

If Scripture was truly self-interpreting then all would interpret it the same. Then there are some who wonder why there are so many different denominations and interpretations. They end up coming to the conclusion  that anyone who interprets it differently than they and their church does, doesn’t truly have the Holy Spirit guiding them.

But how do they KNOW? How do they KNOW that THEY are not the ones who think they are being guided by the Holy Spirit but are actually NOT being guided by the Holy Spirit? How does any Protestant KNOW the Catholic Church isn’t exactly what she claims to be: The ONE, HOLY, CATHOLIC, and APOSTOLIC CHURCH: Founded by Jesus Christ Himself upon Peter and the Apostles?

You err when you say:  oral tradition = { elevating man’s words above the word of God. }

All oral tradition cannot be defined this way. You contradict no lesser person than the Apostle Paul when he told the Thessalonians and Corinthians to hold fast to the traditions that he had taught them whether oral or written.

2 Thessalonians 2:15
So then, brethren, stand firm and hold to the traditions which you were taught, whether by word of mouth or by letter from us.

1 Corinthians 11:2
Now I praise you because you remember me in everything and hold firmly to the traditions, just as I delivered them to you.

MK:Scripture even tells us that we should not take the word of angels over the word of God. Anyone–it doesn’t matter who you are or what denomination you come from–who perverts the gospel of Jesus Christ is accursed!

BFHU: I agree.

MK: Just a few scriptures that support what man calls Sola Scriptura are:

Psalms 12:6-7: The words of the LORD are pure words;
As silver tried in a furnace on the earth, refined seven times.
7You, O LORD, will keep them;
You will preserve him from this generation forever.

BFHU: Agreed. The word of God is extolled but nothing here says that ONLY the written word of God  is to be adhered to.

MK: Isaiah 28:9-14: 12He who said to them, “Here is rest, give rest to the weary,”
And, “Here is repose,” but they would not listen.
13So the word of the LORD to them will be,
“Order on order, order on order,
Line on line, line on line,
A little here, a little there,”
That they may go and stumble backward, be broken, snared and taken captive.14Therefore, hear the word of the LORD, O scoffers,
Who rule this people who are in Jerusalem,

BFHU: Amen. But, again,  nothing here says that ONLY the written word of God  is to be adhered to.

MK: Matthew 16:18: 18“I also say to you that you are Peter, and upon this rock I will build My church; and the gates of Hades will not overpower it.

BFHU: Absolutely. And that Church, the Catholic Church, has not been overpowered.

MK: John 15:1-11: 1“I am the true vine, and My Father is the vinedresser….3“You are already clean because of the word which I have spoken to you….7“If you abide in Me, and My words abide in you, ask whatever you wish, and it will be done for you….

BFHU: I love the parable of Christ the Vine. But again, nothing here says that ONLY the written word of God  is to abide in us.

MK: 1 Cor 1:10-13-Now I exhort you, brethren, by the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that you all agree and that there be no divisions among you, but that you be made complete in the same mind and in the same judgment. 11For I have been informed concerning you, my brethren, by Chloe’s people, that there are quarrels among you.12Now I mean this, that each one of you is saying, “I am of Paul,” and “I of Apollos,” and “I of Cephas,” and “I of Christ.”13Has Christ been divided? Paul was not crucified for you, was he? Or were you baptized in the name of Paul?

BFHU: I totally agree with this.From this passage we see that Jesus did not want a bunch of denominations. He only founded ONE Church. The Catholic Church is the only Church that has been in existence since Jesus founded her.

Not clear why you have used this verse to support sola scriptura because nothing  says anything about the idea that ONLY the written word of God  is to be adhered to.

MK: 1 Cor 3:5-17-

BFHU:That is a great passage but nothing in it says anything about scripture, let alone that ONLY the written word of God  is to be adhered to.

MK: 1 Cor 4:6-6Now these things, brethren, I have figuratively applied to myself and Apollos for your sakes, so that in us you may learn not to exceed what is written, so that no one of you will become arrogant in behalf of one against the other.

BFHU: Agreed. This is an excellent verse to portray that we must not let anything  nullify or contradict the word of God in Sacred Scripture. We, the Catholic Church believe this. But I think you are reading “not to exceed what is written” in the verse to mean that only what is written is to be adhered to, believed, followed, etc. Therefore, all oral teaching not explicitly contained in the written scripture is to be shunned as heresy…or something along this line.

This is a good example of differences in interpretation.

But Catholics read this scripture to mean that nothing may contradict anything in scripture according to the interpretation that has always and everywhere been believed.

MK: Gal. 1:6-9-I am amazed that you are so quickly deserting Him who called you by the grace of Christ, for a different gospel;7which is really not another; only there are some who are disturbing you and want to distort the gospel of Christ.8But even if we, or an angel from heaven, should preach to you a gospel contrary to what we have preached to you, he is to be accursed!9As we have said before, so I say again now, if any man is preaching to you a gospel contrary to what you received, he is to be accursed!

BFHU: Absolutely. If you notice St. Paul refers to what they learned from him by his preaching not by what was written. Again there is nothing here about adhering only to what has been written in Scripture.

Here is another example of a different interpretation. You read or interpret this to say that the Bible is the only sure reservoir of what Paul taught. Therefore, only it must be accepted because it is the earliest document of what the apostles taught, orally.

The Sacred Scriptures were not canonized to be Sacred Scripture until about 400 AD. Of course the epistles and books were written very early but so were a lot of other documents written at the same time and before 400 AD. These contain a lot of information about the Christian Faith. Some trustworthy and some not trustworthy. So Christians, for 400 years were exposed to all of these writings and the leaders in the church had to protect them from what was in error.

When Scripture was canonized it was for the purpose of separating the wheat from the chaff. But it also limited inclusion to those writings by people who knew Jesus.  But between the resurrection and the time scripture was canonized there were many excellent writings that were faithful and true.

If however, the Protestant idea was correct, that what was canonized by the Church in 400 AD was the only teachings about Christian Faith that were to be believed and that all else must be rejected, then we would expect to see the Catholic Church do an about face on all the uniquely Catholic doctrines.

If the canonization of scripture was supposed to present to the world all of the information necessary for salvation and growth in holiness and condemn every other teaching not explicitly contained in scripture then ancient writings should abound with teachings about sola scriptura.

But there are none of these. The Catholic Faith continued to teach the same doctrine regarding Purgatory, Mary and Prayers for the dead. So, historically the canonization of scripture clarified what writings could be relied on to be infallible. This does not, therefore, mean that every other writing positively contained error. Some did and some didn’t.

MK: Revelation 22:18-19-I testify to everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: if anyone adds to them, God will add to him the plagues which are written in this book;

19and if anyone takes away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God will take away his part from the tree of life and from the holy city, which are written in this book.

BFHU:But according to Deuteronomy the book of Revelation itself is  added contrary to Deuteronomy.

Deuteronomy 4:2:“You shall not add to the word which I am commanding you, nor take away from it, that you may keep the commandments of the LORD your God which I command you.

MK: “All Scripture is inspired by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, for training in righteousness; so that the man of God may be adequate, equipped for every good work.” (2 Timothy 3:16-17, NASB)

BFHU:This is the classic verse used to support Sola Scriptura. But where does it say that ONLY Scripture is inspired by God and profiable for teaching….etc.?????? There is nothing in this verse that contradicts Catholic Church teaching.

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