Priests are not Found in New Testament.

David D: The ROLE AND FUNCTION of PRIESTS disappears after the death, burial, and Resurrection of Jesus. The ministry offices are listed in the New Testament Some Apostles, Some pastors, some teachers, etc. There is NEVER ONE priest mentioned in the New Testament Church. Why? The PURPOSE in Jesus coming to earth was to make REPARATIONS and RECONCILE MAN BACK TO GOD so we dont need a ‘GO BETWEEN’ MAN can ONCE AGAIN become RIGHTEOUS & FELLOWSHIP with GOD DIRECTLY.

BFHU: Are you aware that the English root for Priest is the Greek word presbuteros which is in the NT. Please click –>Priesthood in NT Scripture

And what about the priesthood of all believers?
1 Peter 2:5 & 9 …you also, like living stones, are being built into a spiritual house to be a holy priesthood, offering spiritual sacrifices acceptable to God through Jesus Christ. …. 9. But you are a chosen people, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, God’s special possession, that you may declare the praises of him who called you out of darkness into his wonderful light.


David D: 3. PENANCE. This is NEVER taught in the New Testament. This was synonymous with the SELLING OF INDULGENCES in which the catholic church would SELL ADMISSION to heaven wealthy nobles and other rich parishioners such as Kings and Counts and Princes for a HIGH PRICE.

BFHU: I am certain this is what you have been taught but it is a complete distortion of what the Church actually teaches. Only through Christ can anyone gain admission to Heaven. However, we believe that we must be purified before we can enter into the presence of Holy God. Our Purification or Sanctification is something we do with God’s help but He doesn’t do it all for us without our effort and cooperation. Indulgences do not buy admission to Heaven at all. That is just silly.  But  acts of Faith & Love or sufferings for the Faith etc accomplish this purification and under certain circumstances one can gain  indulgences which may accomplish some or all of the purification needed. Indulgences may obtain for a person the avoidance of Purgatory not the avoidance of Hell. Purgatory is not a second chance for Heaven. It is a “layover” for the soul to be purified on its way to Heaven. Anyone who makes it to Purgatory will go to Heaven.

David D: It would also enlist the aid of KNIGHTS in the Crusades (massacres) by which the catholic church would promise FORGIVENESS of sins for payment of SERVICE to the catholic church.

BFHU: It is very weird that the Christian Crusades are always characterized as unjust war against the peaceful Muslims. That is propaganda. The Muslims had warred against Christians for 450 years before the first Crusade. The Crusades were launched to right wrongs and defend Christian lands. Did all the Catholics acquit themselves perfectly? No. There were atrocities. But these were NOT sanctioned by the Church. These were committed by sinful men. Please click here–>First Crusade.

It is true that those who went on Crusade were offered an indulgence, for the complete purification of the individual. They were not offered “the Forgiveness of sins” in the sense of salvation. Salvation comes only through Jesus Christ. The Church DID NOT  offer this, nor could she for going on crusade. The language used is confusing to Protestants who reject the idea that sin has a two-fold consequence. Eternal and Temporal. Jesus atoned for the Eternal consequences of our sin but we atone for the temporal consequences. For a better explanation please see this post–>   Where is Purgatory in Scripture?

David D: The DOCTRINES, RITUALS, CHARACTER, etc of the roman catholic church lay a foundation of deception, violence, and out right blasphemy.

BFHU: Wow those are some very serious accusations. But, exactly how can you support this opinion?

David D: If you throw the idea of this ambiguous ‘SACRED TRADITION’ whats left? ONLY the WRITTEN SCRIPTURES.

BFHU:Right. and that is exactly what the Protestants think they did. They are blind to the fact that they still hold to many Catholic Traditions.

We do not think Sacred Tradition is ambiguous (except to Protestants) and we aren’t about to throw out the precious teachings of Jesus handed over to His apostles and down to us.

David D: If the catholic church is to be held solely to the WRITTEN SCRIPTURES it is seen or what it is. The MARRIAGE of ROMAN paganism & CHRISTIANITY.

BFHU:But, why should the Catholic Church “be held solely to the written Scriptures?” Why should the Catholic Church obey you? Why should the Catholic Church obey Martin Luther, John Calvin or any other Protest-ant?

The Scriptures nowhere demand that we be held “solely to the written scriptures. So, by what authority do you suggest that the Catholic Church should abandon Sacred Tradition?

David D: Has the world forgotten that Rome killed Jesus? This is the closest Rome ever got to Christianity.

BFHU:Your logic escapes me.

3 Responses

  1. BFHU”:The Scriptures nowhere demand that we be held “solely to the written scriptures. So, by what authority do you suggest that the Catholic Church should abandon Sacred Tradition?”

    Bfhu ;could you point out were the Scriptrues demand that we follow the “Roman” Catholic Church?
    and the Papas has more Athority than Jesus Himself?

    Sacred Tradition?”
    Isnt that man made by Roman leadership ?

    If we acually followed a Sacred Tradition, wouldnt the Chruch look more Jewish than Roman?

    Wasnt the Letter to the Romans about when Jews were allowed to come back to Rome , and when they came back the Chruch resembled more of a Roman pegan cultrue than the Sacred Tradition?”

    Could you define Sacred Tradition?”

    • Dear Robert,
      Here are some scriptures that clearly say we must listen to the apostles and the Church founded by Jesus, which the Catholic Church is;both apostolic and founded by Jesus.

      1 Timothy 3:15
      but in case I am delayed, I write so that you will know how one ought to conduct himself in the household of God, which is the church of the living God, the pillar and support of the truth.

      Luke 10:16
      ” The one who listens to you listens to Me, and the one who rejects you rejects Me; and he who rejects Me rejects the One who sent Me.”

      1 John 4:6
      We are from God; he who knows God listens to us; he who is not from God does not listen to us By this we know the spirit of truth and the spirit of error.

      The Catholic Church does NOT teach that she or the Pope has more authority than Jesus. That is a Protestant myth. Nothing in the Catholic Faith contradicts anything Jesus said. It only contradicts how Protestants interpret what Jesus said.

      Sacred Tradition is NOT the “traditions of men”.

      That is another Protestant myth.

      Sacred Tradition is the teachings of Jesus as taught to His apostles but that was not included in the Gospels or other NT books. John tells us clearly that everything was NOT written down.

      Jn 21:25 Jesus did many other things as well. If every one of them were written down, I suppose that even the whole world would not have room for the books that would be written.

      Actually, yes the Catholic Church very much resembles a Jewish service, much more so than any Protestant service. Jewish worship was liturgical and so is Catholic worship.

      There is nothing I know of in Romans that says what you are saying it says. What verses are you referring to?

      Definition of Sacred Tradition: All of the Teachings of Jesus to the Apostles, both written (Scripture) and oral.

      • There is nothing I know of in Romans that says what you are saying it says. What verses are you referring to?

        You Dont know Why the Letter of Romans was Written?
        the Contextaul History of the Book of Romans ?

        Im sorry But the Roman Catholic service does not an any way resemable a Jewish Temple worship.

        One any Man can Read the Tora in the Service. During the Tora Reading.
        Second Rabbis can be married. (Wich means he is in a better mood)
        Second Jewish Temples Modest compared to the grandiosicty of a Catherdrol

        come from Men
        Jesus was breaking traditions , not the law

        BFUH”Actually, yes the Catholic Church very much resembles a Jewish service, much more so than any Protestant service. Jewish worship was liturgical and so is Catholic worship”

        Acually we do in the reformed Tradition, we even read the apostols Creed ,Call to Worship(Music Prayer and usally a Psalms,In the Presbyterian Tradition we dont read the Common Book prayer), and any member can Read from the Scriptrue reading(not Just Clergy), Prayers of people, offering,Communion and even a Benidiction.
        Just becuase we dont were the finest slik and the gold tassels, or pajamas, we bring areselfs as we are , just like in Jesus day , Paul preach in rags in Corinth. What matters is not the order of worship or the buiilding but the Holy Spirt

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