What Is the Last Judgment?

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  1. Remember my dear theologian friends, THE Lamb of God Who takes away the sin of the world, Grace and mercy, and in Jesus own words
    ” YOU MUST BE BORN AGAIN”. I Love you guys. I like the music. paul

  2. TWO JUDGEMENTS – The Bema seat judgment for Holy Christians
    (help) when you die but also the Great White Throne Judgement
    If you are in the rapture you are OK.

    There is the rapture of believers (those dead and alive) at the end of this age at some time during daniel’s seven years of tribulation – those raptured will not be judged again. Jesus rules for 1000 years from Jerusalem with the raptured Christians spread throughout the earth.

    The antichrist rules for 3.5 years during the 7 years of Jacob’s trouble most obviously in the last 3.5 years. The Jews think the antichrist is their messiah and make an 7 yr agreement with him for peace which he breaks in the middle. ” I have told you the truth and you want to kill me but ANOTHER will come in my name and him you will accept ”

    This 1000 year millennial reign is after the battle of Armageddon in Israel with a renewed earth where the lion lies with the lamb…. swords into ploughshares etc.
    At the battle of Armageddon the remnant of Jews finally accept Jesus renting their garments and He appears in the sky with thousands of angels. Armageddon is where the whole world comes against Israel and each other.- a winepress of blood – I am not going.

    Satan is bound for this 1000 years and is then released for the testing of the billions borne in this 1000 years – he tempts many into an attack on Jesus in Jerusalem and they are consumed with fire. A new heaven and earth is then created for eternity without seas.
    This end of the thousand years is when the Great White Throne judgement takes place for the unbelievers – all who ever lived.

    This 1000 years is the sabbath rest after 6000 years of turmoil. If only I can make it.

    Approximately :-
    2000 yrs – man rules then the flood
    2000 -yrs – of the LAW from the Jews spreading through the world.
    2000 -yrs – of Christianity spreading through the world
    1000 – yrs – Sabbath and reign of Jesus.

    • Rapture is not in the Bible and it is something that has only been promulgated for less than 200 years. It was made up by an English guy in the 1800’s.

      • BFHU – I thought you would say that – the word trinity is not in the Bible but we know what it means. The rapture is scriptural and not just in one place – rather than me listing all the scriptures you could google them and come back to me on what scripture you don’t agree with eg

        The rapture is not invented it is totally scriptural and the scriptures have been around for 2000 years not 200.

        “1 Thessalonians 4:16-17

        “For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.” 1 Thessalonians 4:16-17

        Also two will be working in the field and one will be taken and one will be left – the gospels.

  3. IT was two jesuit theologians who interpreted scripture and came to the conclusion that the rapture and daniel’s seven years was a future event in the rebuilt temple of Jerusalem – ie what the Jews are trying to do now.

    Francisco Ribera was a Jesuit, and he wrote a book on Bible Prophecy in 1585-1590 (?) with the perspective of “futurism”. However, Ribera did not invent futurism! The key element of a future antichrist is easily seen in scripture itself and requires no inventiveness of any kind. Ribera simply read 2 Thess 2:3-4 and took the words “temple of God” to mean a literal rebuilt temple in Jerusalem instead of the view of the reformers that the “temple of God” was referring to the Church, because, of course, the body is the temple. (1 Corinthians 6:19, John 2:21) If anything, the view of the reformers was more inventive (requiring a sort of spiritualized substitution of words) than Ribera’s view! Additionally, it is far more obvious to see the 1260 days and/or 42 months, of Revelation 12 & 13 as 3.5 years of 1260 literal days than as 1260 years. It takes no evil inventive subversive genius to simply believe what the Bible says! But the view of a future antichrist in a future literal temple is so clearly evident in the scriptures (and not an invented heresy) that it was also taught by men over 1000 years earlier by Church Fathers such as Irenaeus & Hippolytus around 125 AD. You can look those names up in a search engine and find that Irenaeus & Hippolytus interpreted Daniel’s 70th week as a future event, with a future antichrist to come during a final period of tribulation. To read Irenaeus, see “IRENAEUS AGAINST HERESIES – BOOK V”, Chapter 25, paragraph 4 at http://www.newadvent.org/fathers/0103525.htm or http://www.ccel.org/fathers/ANF-01/iren/iren5.html or http://www.gnosis.org/library/advh5.htm To read in the Bible about the antichrist to come, see Daniel 7-12, 2 Thess 2, Matt 24, and Rev 12-13.

  4. bfhu – I dont think Christians will escape the seven years of jacob’s trouble but Ribera thought the rapture would come at the end nearly of the 7 years :-

    “Often it is assumed or claimed that Francisco Ribera invented the pretribulation rapture. But Ribera did not teach the pretribulation rapture, he primarily taught futurism, and an antichrist to come in the future. Admittedly, yes, Ribera did place the rapture 45 days prior to the end of a 3.5 year tribulation, but not 7 years before. And so, some say he was the first (I don’t believe he was, in fact, the first) to split the timing of the rapture and the physical return of Christ. But Ribera’s view was more of a form of post tribulation or pre wrath viewpoint where the Church has to go through most of the tribulation. ”

    The above quote was from a website with no name but it fits other sites view that father ribera interpreted the rapture fairly accurately.
    It was to counter the reformers notion that the temple of the antichrist would be the vatican rather than at Jerusalem.

    • Go to confession on Saturday, miss Mass on Sunday, Get killed on Monday, and spend eternity in hell.

      • It is not that cut and dried/black& white. Our Heavenly Father will weigh all the circumstances in our life. However, all mortal/deadly sin should be avoided at all times. Four instance a couple of times while on vacation my whole family missed mass because we could not find the church. I looked it up online, I brought church clothes for the kids, but we failed to find the church. I was not the least worried about going to hell.

  5. You are rightly dividing your bible Charles Allan…amen. 🙂 2TIM2:15 Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.

    7 dispensations: Innocence (Adam & Eve), Conscience (Adam to Noah), Human Gov Noah to Abraham), Promise (Abraham to Moses), Law (Moses to Christ), Grace (the Church, current) and Kingdom (1000 year reign, future).
    The day of Christ is the rapture – occurs before tribulation, when He comes in the clouds for His bride, the saints, the saved :). The day of the Lord is His 2nd coming, when He comes back to earth to reign.

    Comments for the video guy: Mat 25 is a judgment of nations. Rev 6 & 7 — those verses are for tribulation saints. Notice in Rev 7:14 These are they which came OUT of great tribulation, and have WASHED their robes, and MADE them white in the blood of the Lamb.

    The CHURCH (born-again believers, those who are saved – the bride/the church is not a ref to the “catholic church”) is gone starting in REV 4, and not mentioned again until REV 19.

    1Cor15:51-52 Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall be changed, In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.

    I am born-again, saved by GRACE (thank you Lord) through FAITH, saved by the BLOOD of Jesus Christ, and will be judged at the judgement seat of Christ (the day of Christ), not the Great White Throne judgement. The GWTJ is where all unbelievers will be judged based on their WORKS and will then be thrown into the lake of fire, forever! I will be present with Christ at the Rapture AMEN – or at death – and will perhaps return with Him to fight the battle of Armageddon, I will rule and reign with Him for 1000 years during the millenium–Israel is restored. AMEN, PRAISE the LORD. The GWTJ follows the 1000 year reign of Christ. Then the new heaven and the new earth. AMEN.

    If you are unsaved TODAY, you are hoping to get to heaven based on a combination of your WORKS and faith. That is the same way TRIBULATION SAINTS will be saved. NOW, TODAY, IS THE DAY OF SALVATION. PLEASE accept JESUS CHRIST as your SAVIOR TODAY.
    If you are born-again TODAY, you have the blessed assurance of knowing you are SEALED.
    Eph 1:13-14 In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise, Which is the earnest of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, unto the praise of his glory.
    Titus 2:13 Looking for the blessed hope, and the glorious appearance of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ; AMEN. ALL PRAISE and GLORY to God ALONE.

    If you died tonight, do you know where you’re going?
    Heb 9:27 And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:
    Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us. AMEN. AMEN. AMEN.
    Rom 3:23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;
    Rom 3:10 As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one:
    Rom 10:9 That is thou shalt confess with they mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
    Rom 10:13 For whosoever (WHOSOEVER) shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.
    John 1:12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:

    John 5:24 Verily, verily I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life. WOW! AMEN.
    John 20:31 But these are written, that ye might believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God; and that believing ye might have life through his name. AMEN!
    John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
    Please, if you are reading this, God is talking to YOU, trying to draw you closer to Him. TAKE HOLD of God’s FREE gift to you, receive an ETERNAL forgiveness for your sins.

    Eph 4:22 That ye put off concerning the former conversation the old man, which is corrupt according to the deceitful lusts; 23 And be renewed in the spirit of your mind; 24
    And that ye put on the new man, which after God is created in righteousness and true holiness.


  6. It is not that cut and dried/black& white. Our Heavenly Father will weigh all the circumstances in our life. However, all mortal/deadly sin should be avoided at all times. Four instance a couple of times while on vacation my whole family missed mass because we could not find the church. I looked it up online, I brought church clothes for the kids, but we failed to find the church. I was not the least worried about going to hell.

    • Dear Pam, it is that cut and dried, black and white. The save and the unsaved. The sheep and the goats. Those on the left and those on the right. Washed in the Blood and all the rest. My dear Pam, TODAY IS THE DAY OF YOUR SALVATION.
      Please trust the work of Christ’s work on the cross today. Please put your name in the book of life today. Please Please. I beg you and all who read this.

  7. They beat Him Half to death, ripped the skin off his back with a whip with half inch hooks, pounded thorns in His head urinated and spit on his open wounds, dislocated his shoulder blades when they stretched his arms to tie and nail him to the roughest blood soaked piece of crap tree they could find, His bowels and urine let go sometime in the middle of the torture, covered with feces, hanging naked, people taunting throwing rocks and mud at Him, for my sin.
    Don’t go telling me what my heavenly Father thinks, because I already know what he thinks. He wrote it down for me.

  8. Amen Paul, for my sin too. Thank you Lord.

  9. Dear Paul and Jackie,
    I was commenting from my phone and that comment was NOT a response to either of your comment just above it. Sorry…..now I will have to go and find the comment I was trying to respond to…..

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